Comments on: Pinball FX2 VR | Review https://6dofreviews.com/reviews/games/quest/pinball-fx2-vr/ Your source for VR news and reviews! Sat, 01 Jul 2023 11:13:51 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 By: karmamole https://6dofreviews.com/reviews/games/quest/pinball-fx2-vr/#comment-283 Thu, 25 Feb 2021 18:32:45 +0000 https://6dofreviews.com/?p=1419#comment-283 In reply to Nick Zetton.

It’s a bit odd that you use ‘gamer’ so disparagingly, and this isn’t a gamer reviewing ‘Pinball’, this is a gamer reviewing a Pinball game 🙂

Also, you should be aware that many of us are pinball fans, and in fact, Doc is an old pinball hand. He actually got that nickname because he voiced Doc Brown in the old Back To The Future pinball game, so it’s not like he’s out of his ballpark.

Just because a pricing scheme has been around “forever” doesn’t make it any good or grant it automatic legitimacy of any sort. We find the pricing structure for the game a bit ridiculous. Not sure again who this ‘generic gamer’ is that you keep referring to, but for a generic pinball fan (you forced that), you’re way too forgiving towards the published and the license owners. We’re not, and we still think it’s a bad deal.

The fact that you could spend months mastering any particular table doesn’t make it feel like any less of a demo. We hate it when games present themselves to players in such a way that they feel inherently incomplete without additional purchases. In That regard, Pinball FX2 is one of the worst offenders. If we’re going by your measure, then the Beat Saber demo isn’t a demo either, since you could spend months mastering even one of the tracks, going from Easy to Normal, to hard to Expert, and finally, facing the looming intimidation that is “Expert+”, and maybe never even getting a full combo on that. That wouldn’t make it feel like any less of a demo, since you know that most of the content is locked behind a paywall.

We’re glad you feel that you’re getting your money’s worth from Pinball FX2, but that, in no way, obligates us to feel the same way, not invalidates how we, and many others, feel about it. You can disagree all you want without resorting to referring to our reviewer disparagingly or referring to any of us as ‘generic’ gamers. Tilt!

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By: Nick Zetton https://6dofreviews.com/reviews/games/quest/pinball-fx2-vr/#comment-282 Wed, 24 Feb 2021 05:48:40 +0000 https://6dofreviews.com/?p=1419#comment-282 This is why a “gamer” shouldn’t review pinball. This thing is a dream come true for pinball enthusiasts. If you love pinball — nothing compares to vr pinball, and it’s actually BETTER in many ways than owning a real table.

1. The most immediately jarring thing about Pinball FX2 VR, and which I still haven’t really adjusted to happily, is that the Touch controllers have no virtual presence in the game.
— And they shouldn’t! Are you suggesting that I should have my IRW arms approximating the width of a pinball table align with the flipper buttons just to have “in game hands”? For the entire 1/2 hour, hour I’m playing this thing? That would be horrible. I see no way to implement this for pinball if I’m understanding you correctly. I much prefer not having them for this application so I can rest my hands in a comfortable position IRW not stand (or sit) there with my arms locked to several feet apart to align with virtual flipper buttons.

2. virtual hands to interact with the stuff happening away from the tablewould have been a treat – swatting away those spider bots or sharks
— Wouldn’t be a treat to me. There’s plenty of other vr games that allow you to interact with the environment. I’m here to play pinball, not swat at the environmental embellishments.

3. it’s a real shame that the game feels cynical when it comes to content. The three tables included with the base game are good and provide an entertaining game of pinball, but the rest of the tables have to be
purchased. Apart from the Walking Dead licensed table, none of the additional tables can be bought individually either.
— This has been the pricing scheme since forever (over a decade now) with the major digital pinball studios, and not just with “Zen”. The Pinball Arcade, likewise, has “seasons” and “table packs”. So does Zaccaria pinball. It’s just how the business model works presumably because digital pin is a niche game. The per table price is dirt cheap — a few bucks. For someone who loves pinball, not a generic “gamer” this is a bargain.

4. As such, it feels very much like the game is a paid demo, only there to get you to fork out more for the more appealing licensed tables such as Back to the Future, ET, and Jaws. Most nonsensically of all, the ‘season 1’ pack of original tables costs more than the Universal pack of film tie-ins. Whilst those tables may very well play wonderfully, their design and theming do not hold candle to the Hollywood classics, having that generic feel.
— It’s not “a demo”. You could spend months mastering any one of those tables — Mars, Epic Quest, and Secrets of the Deep. Three tables are plenty to start. I’ve played Mars for years in 2D and have yet to complete all the missions and “beat” that table. Pinball people don’t just slap the ball around. They understand the complex rule-set and try to beat each table. Each table has infinite replay value. Further, the Universal IPs I passed on. They’re not more interesting, rather dull (to me). Pinball manufactures going back to the real table days have used IPs and movie themes to lure casual players. The season 1 tables contain some classics… Paranormal is probably Zen’s best table. An ingenious design, as is Wild West Rampage. These are amazing to play in VR.

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